New Lonely Planet Mongolia. What do we think?
For many years the Lonely Planet Mongolia was the only English guidebook on Mongolia, but not everybody was too happy with it. Comments varied from:
This is the first guidebook I read that basically tells me not to go thereto:
This is a history book, it's completely outdatedBut last year good old Michael Kohn, took up the job to revise the lonely planet. He traveled all over the place and incorporated everything in lp's new set-up.
By now it has survived its first summer, it's time to evaluate. The comments on amazon definitely changed for the better. For me the new lay-out works. Good cover, the maps are more easy to read and it seems generally more easy to use. The extended list of gps locations is probably nowhere as useful as here in Mongolia. One Amazon reviewer remarks that there could be simply more info, and with less than 300 pages, I am sure there are city guides that are bigger than this one. And of course Mongolia changes too fast for something as static as a printed publication to keep track of that. Restaurants have moved, flight schedules changed etc. But it seems to have improved a lot and in the end it seems to be the most useful guide around. The competitors that have sprang up - the Odyssey guide, is more a coffee table book; the Bradt guide has good background, but lousy practical information - have something to focus on.
UPDATE: A review of the new version is available at Danny's Reviews:
For independent travellers without preplanned itineraries the Lonely Planet is the better choice — as well as focusing more on practical information, it's more recent and noticeably lighter and more compact. Those doing an organised tour and less concerned about practicalities may lean towards the Bradt's more extensive background information. And its personal stories may be more helpful for those deciding whether or not to visit Mongolia. I found both books useful, both before and during my trip, and any sizeable group will want both.
12 Comments:
Hey,
i hope you are not american or english. Because your writing sucks. You don't know about my country and your spelling skill is worse than 6 years old Mongolian child who's learning english, for you have made many mistakes.
hope you won't cry for my criticizm,
Mr. Mongolian guy
Hi Mr. Mongolian Guy,
Thanks for pointing out the typos, I corrected them straight away. I had forgotten to run the spell check before posting, for which my apologies. As I am indeed not a native speaker of English, I hope you will forgive me any present or future mistakes.
Would like to hear it if there is any information about Mongolia on the blog that you percieve as incorrect.
Best,
Guido
Mr. Anonymous from above has no room to speak. He needs to check his own grammar and punctuation, although his English is not bad for a non-native English speaker.
Hey, don't worry about spelling check.
Who cares, as long as you get the point.
Actually, your english is good.
It is not a term paper or so, Please write freely.
Best wishes,
Matt
Unfortunately the sort of comment that "Mr. Mongolian Guy" printed crops up now and again when a local feels uneasy about the amount of non-native input to his/her nation... It's probably a young college student or high school student, who feels competent to communicate in English, and anxious about his future. I, as an American and a native-English speaker, who lived in the countryside in Mongolia for two years (which a lot of these city kids in Mongolia haven't) assert the opposite: this is a great site; and I think your English is exemplary. The crack about "not knowing my country" is just sour grapes -- pay it no mind, as we say in the States. By the way, I think the UB Post and Mongol Messenger could do with more improvement of their written English than Guido or this site.
Your English is fine, don't mind the nasty comments. To ariel RE the UB Post, they pay the princely sum of 200,000 tgs per month for an English editor.
Lately they have been using US undergrads. It's a dirty job and you have to give them a break under the circumstances.
sujin,
point taken, it is after all, understandable.
The UB Post also does not pay their volunteers, in this case the English Editors.
Several obvious errors in the previous Lonely Planet edition haven't been corrected in the new one. Most critical example: The list of border crossings open for foreign vehicles is very incomplete and out of date.
-schorsch
Shorsch:
information on border crossings open to vehicles is described on p253.
Hey. For negative people: stop whining and create something yourselves instead. ;) Or why not help out with whatever you know better at excisting projects.
Would be awesome to see some more websites about Mongolia and their culture by mongolian people themselves btw.
Not least if they are all that good at english as some. ;)
Be good to eachother. No biting.
And happy holidays to everybody.
Greets from Sweden
Hej, Tjena Swed.
have you ever heard this joke:
"last year I coultn't even spell english teecha, and now I is one..." don't mind that Mr. Mongolia Guy. The post was about Lonely Planet new edition, not about some sorry-ass english skills of a pretencious boy who named himself Mr. Mongolia Guy. What a lack of fantasy.
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